Judy Wilyman PhD joined us Thursday September 17 on Facebook Live to discuss the responses of Governments in Australia to Covid-19. In her live discussion with Molly Knight she covered :
  • unscientific restrictions
  • flawed medical testing
  • conflicts of interest in government advisory panels
  • the Covid-19 vaccine chosen for Australians



Judy became interested in the vaccination topic in 1993 after vaccinating her first child. She began studying the safety, efficacy and necessity for each vaccine on the schedule and in 2015 completed a PhD at the University of Wollongong. Her thesis was titled ‘A critical analysis of the Australian Government’s rationale for its vaccination policy’ in which she presents information on the claims made by the Government about vaccines that are not supported by scientific evidence. Her book based on her PhD research titled ‘Australia’s Loss of Health Freedom’ is now available to buy.

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The complete transcript follows – E&OE :

Molly Knight 0:04
Welcome to Health Australia Party Thursday night Talk. Thank you for joining us. Tonight we’ve got a cracker of a talk. And I’ll be introducing Dr. Judy wildermann. In just a minute. What? Excuse me, what I wanted to do is just to start tonight by reading you something that Health Australia Party has launched, it’s something pretty special. And we’ve asked for three primary actions for the Victorian Alp to remove Daniel Andrews as premier immediately the immediate revision of the unrealistic roadmap including a reduction of targets and restrictions, which are not backed by science and an immediate full independent investigation into Daniel Andrews leadership over the COVID-19 response and the integrity of the Alp government under Daniel Andrews, so please Go to the Health Australia Party web page and look at this action and take part in it Victorians. You need to stand up now. Okay, so tonight we’ll be I’ll be talking with Dr. Judy wildermann. Judy has a Bachelor of Science degree and a Masters of Science. So she’s got a great science background Remember that? And she practiced as a science teacher for 20 years. In 2015, Judy completed her PhD through the Willingham University. The thesis is titled, a critical analysis of the Australian Government’s rationale for its vaccination policy. Yes, and it provides scientific arguments showing that the government’s shedule of vaccines is the most likely cause of the chronic illnesses that are so rampant in our children today and Also, it’s implemented in the many deaths that we’re observing in children today. It’s very, very important work. And I must tell you too, that Judy’s thesis, which is available on her web page has been downloaded over 28,000 times. Now I’ve got to tell you, nobody reads thesis is because they often very long and boring but 28,000 downloads. That’s awesome. So tonight, we’re going to look at a few issues with us. She’ll discuss the unscientific restrictions and the flawed medical testing. That were the excesses and the many, many conflicts of interest in government advisory panel. That’s huge to discuss the COVID-19 vaccine chosen for Australians. And also, we’ll talk about the government vaccine sheduled linked to the chronic illness and Importantly, the undone science in government claims of safety and efficacy of vaccines. It’s back to it is a big topic. It’s controversial. it ignites many emotions in people. So please feel free to ask any questions that you have. And after our discussion, I can put the questions to Judy. So with enormous pleasure, I welcome Dr. Judy wildermann. Judy, thank you so much for joining us.

Dr Judy Wilyman 3:31
No problem, Molly. It’s lovely to be here. Thank you,

Molly Knight 3:35
Judy. I’d like to start off tonight by asking you about your journey up to and through your PhD. How did you come to consider your topic for the PhD? And what yet just your journey there because I know it’s been quite a journey and there’s been a lot of ups and downs for you. And having to change. What do you call it at universities from one house to another? Just to do like the back of one thing? Yeah. Yeah, one thing leads to another because of politics. I guess that’s fair, isn’t it? So can you start there and tell us what led you to do this work? And yeah, just your journey, Judy, please. Yes, yes.

Dr Judy Wilyman 4:25
Well, I guess the bottom line is I was teaching in the schools at an interesting time in history. So in fact, I started teaching in 1986. So I was there pre the expansion of the government’s vaccination program so and then happened in 1990. Many, many of you will know that. In 1996, Ronald Reagan in the US passed the act which removed all liability from pharmaceutical companies with reference to the harm that they can they cause in individuals. And so once that liability was removed, because prior to that prior to 1986, there were so many Vaccine Injury claims that the vaccine companies were saying, well, we can’t go on producing vaccines if we’re gonna have to pay all this liability. So they fixed that problem through politics and liability was removed in 1996. And with that, by 1990, we started to see many more vaccines being added to the schedule. And, and, you know, during that time I was teaching in the schools. And so, and at the same time, as the vaccines were being added to the country, indications to vaccines started to be reduced. So all that family history and knowledge of, you know, families that have genes that make them predisposed to say allergies or anaphylaxis, more Have neurological damage. Those contraindications were gradually removed and narrowed right up until 2016 when they mandated vaccines and reduced all of them completely, except for anaphylaxis. So the interesting thing is separately prior to 1990, we didn’t have this autism, this ADHD, the anaphylaxis in the schools, you know, the seizures, convulsions, etc. All of which I will emphasize is listed on the package inserts for vaccines as side effects to vaccines. So it wasn’t unknown. And medical in the medical profession knew that. You know, some people are predisposed to them. But without parents knowledge, the vaccines were added to the schedule and throughout so through the 90s you know, I was just amazed at the principals were sitting around discussing, well, you know, what’s causing all this autism what’s causing this ADHD. And, you know, I started having children in 1993. So that’s when I was exposed to that the expansion in the program, the number of vaccines had already started to double. And you know, that the chronic illness skyrocketed through the 90s, literally. So by 2008, the chronic illness had increased fivefold. And in schools, we now have pictures of students in the staff, who Anna electic. So we had to be able to identify them in the playground and be aware that even the smell of peanut butter could cause this electric shock, which in some cases is fatal.

Molly Knight 7:49
And exactly yeah,

Dr Judy Wilyman 7:50
these are life threatening conditions, and many of them actually prevent children reaching their potential in life and in the case of autism, and You know, many other neurological disabilities, parents have become long term carriers for these children with seizures and convulsions. And when we asked the government even at that time through the 90s and the early 2000s, they asked the government, you know, have you investigated that link between the 12 to 16 vaccines that were being recommended for infants from day one of life, and that increase in chronic illness? They said, Oh, no, no, that’s just a coincidence. And of course, that’s there’s the key. You need systematic evidence based medicine requires systematic investigation of causal factors. And the one factor they have always removed when they’ve looked at the increase in chronic chronic illness, and environmental factors that could be causing it. I’ve always left out the vaccination program which injects chemicals goes directly into the bloodstream and tissues of the body. So that’s that’s the key. That’s where I started and I became very intrigued to find out what was in a vaccine that is being injected into every tissue of the infant that is developing.

Molly Knight 9:16
Yes, it’s a, it’s, um, well, I think it’s a disgrace that the science isn’t done and that they have no liability. I mean, as a health practitioner, if I break someone’s nail, I’m in trouble. But he they can inject these things cause seizures, anaphylaxis and add autism. That’s right and nothing nothing.

Dr Judy Wilyman 9:42
And parents are simply dismissed as even when they know that this has been caused by the vaccine. The doctors will dismiss it as anecdotal evidence and just a coincidence, you know, and then they’ll dismiss parents who want the As anti vaxxers and and label people it is and, you know, so disrespectful to parents who are the ones that actually know their children the best and who want evidence based medicine be behind this. So false and misleading information has been presented in the media and by governments. Yes, you know, to hide this fact that the correlation has never been investigated.

Molly Knight 10:29
It’s quite tragic. It’s some, I actually don’t know anyone who’s just an anti vaxxer. Because the question vaccines have usually got a very valid reason for becoming a little bit cautious about

Dr Judy Wilyman 10:44
what parent wouldn’t be against vaccines if they were safe and effective and that the evidence was provided. There is no It makes no sense. And on top of that, the government has been doubly disrespectful because they Then promote vaccines, such as the hipping cough vaccine on anecdotal evidence, which is a parent Whose child is, you know, claimed to have been died of say he’d been called for another disease. But often there’s no evidence of, you know, how they’ve died. The context of that death is all is never presented. But the very fact that you can promote vaccines on anecdotal evidence, but then suppress the anecdotal evidence of the harm that vaccines are causing. I mean, that is criminal. It really is and parents need to be angry about this

Molly Knight 11:39
is quite a great, a quite a great, we just need the truth. So tell me, let’s go back to your PhD. So you became interested having children and looking at what’s in them. So tell me about the journey to get permission to do your Ph. D. PhD.

Dr Judy Wilyman 11:59
Yes. I did, I decided that I should be the master of science first in population health. So I enrolled in the public health School of Public Health in the Faculty of Health. Because I, you know, I thought, well, I’ll just test the waters to see if there is a problem here, you know, I had started vaccinating my children. So I wanted to know that I was doing the right thing. And, you know, just that was only a possibility that the vaccines could be the cause. At so I completed the Masters of Science with a major project on the whooping cough vaccine and the government’s policy, which wasn’t matching the evidence that I’ve found in the thesis. So but that thesis got a high distinction from the academics and I decided that I would like to continue that research with a PhD. But the Faculty of Health decided they wouldn’t provide supervisors for that project investigating and the role of vaccines in Controlling infectious diseases, they decided that it was better suited to the social sciences and in the Faculty of Arts

Molly Knight 13:12
and rather strange decision really isn’t being a health issue.

Dr Judy Wilyman 13:16
Well, that’s right. It’s a health issue. And in fact, see, here’s the key. infectious diseases were controlled through political and economic decisions that control the environment made changes to the environment and lifestyle factors. Because infectious agents are not independent causes of disease. They’re more virulent, if there’s environmental factors or host characteristics when your body’s rundown and stressed and psychological factors. All of these things come into how serious a disease will be in any person if they’re infected with the virus. And, of course, it’s technically termed social medicine. infectious diseases, you know, throughout the 1900s was always under the umbrella of social medicine, which is your public health or mental health. But the health aspect that doesn’t require medications to control infectious diseases by 1950 in Australia, all of the infectious diseases had been controlled deaths were very, very rare in children to to the childhood diseases, and in fact, they took measles whooping cough and influenza off the national notifiable disease list in 1950. So more I think that the, the deaths and illnesses to infectious diseases declined at simultaneously to the improvements in sanitation, hygiene, nutrition, big factor Smaller family sizes. So by 1950 children weren’t dying of these infectious diseases, none of them, none of us, none of them. And there were still cases of these diseases, but they were mild and mostly asymptomatic. in developed countries, you see, a as well,

Molly Knight 15:21
exactly the

Dr Judy Wilyman 15:23
herd immunity creating herd immunity. They that’s where the asymptomatic cases came in, and they’re critical to developing herd immunity. They are not a threat in a developed country, because people that get infected in a developed country 99% of them will be either asymptomatic or very mild symptoms, and that goes for covid and influenza infections as well. This is why it is unscientific to even consider locking down a healthy population before let me say before You’ve even experienced that Mars under your own environmental conditions and host characteristics. And in countries which have differing quality of health care systems. Hmm.

Molly Knight 16:14
Makes no sense. Does it make no

Dr Judy Wilyman 16:16
sense whatsoever and so from 19 from throughout the 1900s, we’ve always controlled infectious diseases by isolating the sick people, you isolate the sick people. And then in serious cases, you could contact the trace, do trace contacting, so any of their, their contacts, that you can trace those and if they’re sick, then you would isolate those or you know, but that’s in very serious cases to isolate any healthy person that has no symptoms. And I will make the point that Scott Morrison and he tries a game was not Applying for the emergency powers on a pandemic of a novel virus new influenza virus. I mean Corona viruses mutate every year, and the first cases of coronavirus were in like December. And Scott Morrison applied for emergency powers to shut down the country on the 25th of January. Now why was he even thinking that new mutated Coronavirus, what would be a problem in Australia? We don’t get pandemics. They’re not pandemics natural pandemics unlikely in developed countries after 1950. So yes, you might get an outbreak of a disease but you need to go through the appropriate steps before you lock down a healthy population and make them sick up with every directive that was brought in by this government. Yes, there’s nothing that makes sense about you know, the measures that have been applied. To this outbreak of disease, which didn’t even hadn’t even reached Australia, when the government was applying for the emergency powers,

Molly Knight 18:10
definitely makes no sense, does it?

Dr Judy Wilyman 18:13
It doesn’t. And I will even point out that in that article, it was an article in The Sydney Morning Herald, and it was published on the 25th of February. And it actually states in the article that Scott Morrison was applying for the emergency powers. Even though a possible outcome at that time was that this virus would turn out to be a nose no stronger than a normal influenza virus. It’s actually stated in the article. So there were three possible outcomes and give us applying for emergency powers that led us into a police state that closed our borders and damaged businesses. There is no sense in that whatsoever and real questions need to be asked. Absolutely. Because in February, the the World Health Organization hadn’t even assessed the human to human transmission of that virus. They didn’t make that call till the 11th of March. But of course, if you apply for the emergency powers on the 21st of January, then they can be enacted as soon as it’s called on the 11th of March. And I will point out that on the 19th of March, the UK public health unit, downgraded that virus, and said it was it was no longer considered a virus of high consequence in the population, and it was not transmitting any more quickly than other influenza viruses. That was on the 19th of March, one week after the who had declared this this global pandemic, when, you know, the virus hadn’t even entered many countries when that statement was made.

Molly Knight 19:58
Well, clearly, there’s a deeper agenda it plays a bit because there is yes. Yeah. It’s, um, it’s disappointing that we’re being manipulated and run for deeper agendas that we aren’t told about that. As human beings, we don’t have this freedom of information that I know it’s been applied for. And people just get locked out. They can’t, will not release any information on the numbers, the true numbers

Dr Judy Wilyman 20:34
in the Gazette. And, you know, very interesting point was when someone applied through the Freedom of Information Act, to get for the government to provide a test that 100% proves that the SIRs Cove to virus is actually being identified in any of these deaths or cases that are being reported. So kind of specifically, I do To find that virus, the answer was no relevant documents have been found. And this is, again, a very serious point because we know that the PCR tests and the antibody tests are not diagnostic tools for that specific virus. The PCR test is not a licensed diagnostic tool anyway. And therefore, it cannot be used to identify the virus and said we don’t have any proof of causality here. That is critical to determine, you know, to declaring a global pandemic you need proof of causality. Before you make that statement, and, you know, I can see clearly how they have created the pandemic. Because in my thesis, I researched the swine flu vaccine, the swine flu pandemic of 2009 That’s where a lot of this, they’ve copied the same format. But but one big thing that happened in 2009 was that the World Health Organization changed the definition of a pandemic. You see, they couldn’t have called a global pandemic, either in 2009, or 2020. If they hadn’t changed the definition because a pandemic is when you see deaths and illnesses in the community. Everywhere you can see those deaths and illnesses in the community enormous numbers of deaths and illnesses. It’s not just an epidemic, it’s a pandemic. But what they was in 2009 was they removed that clause, they didn’t need to be enormous numbers of deaths and illnesses in the community anymore. It only needed to be increased numbers of that disease. But many of those increased numbers are non serious cases of disease in a developed country, flu and here, we’re talking about a few flu like virus, you know, flu like symptoms? Yes. So yes, it just sticks up. There’s a lot of things hidden in statistics, particularly disease statistics. And that’s what’s happened here. The government has been using fraudulent statistics in that this PCR test is not a licensed diagnostic tool, it cannot identify a whole virus and say that that virus was present in those cases, it only it only identifies segments of a virus, and in this case, segments of RNA, so the genome of that virus, but but not the whole virus, so and because there’s this other related viruses and so,

Molly Knight 23:46
yes, there are many Corona viruses, aren’t there many

Dr Judy Wilyman 23:50
family of Corona viruses and 40% of the population will have been exposed to those because they cause the common cold. So that said, I swear The antibody test again, is not going to tell you anything about whether you’ve got COVID, it can tell you that you may have some immunity to coronaviruses because your antibody tied to it to those viruses is raised. But it can’t tell you if you’ve got an active case of COVID. Or even if it was SAS code two, it’s not specific enough to do that. So there’s reports of cases, people need to ask what was the definition of a case that they were reporting, many of these cases didn’t have any disease symptoms. So that is so fraudulent because Healthy People shouldn’t be considered cases of disease. And in some cases, the cases might have had flu like symptoms or cough or sneeze. But either way, we weren’t told about the context of the cases that were being reported to frighten people about this virus that had already been downgraded from a high consequence infectious disease. And clearly in the community, we weren’t seeing these enormous deaths. And so it is fraudulent reporting and fraudulent to use this, these tests and that the Premier’s and government can be liable, personally liable under civil rights law for that sort of reporting.

Molly Knight 25:23
And they need to be called on it because growing our economy destroys reserves, and

Dr Judy Wilyman 25:29
they’re removing our right to control how we treat our own bodies, what we inject into our own bodies, even using a mask, it’s invasive, and it is causing ill health in a large number of people. The studies are very clear, and and healthy people should not be getting medically tested. That’s invasive. It’s an invasive test and we have a right to control our own bodies and this is protected under all the international health covenants. People do need to resist. And, you know, we’ve got to stop complying with these directives.

Molly Knight 26:08
Yes, exactly. And I think people need to remember that government officials work for us. They are our employees, basically. And they need to do the right things for us for our betterment, not for big corporations and their mates out there. So I think many members of parliament and politicians absolutely forget what they’re there for and why they’re there.

Dr Judy Wilyman 26:36
I think that’s a very good point. And I have watched over the last decade, as the public his voice was removed from government policy. And, and that was, in fact it’s happened over at least since 2005. Because that’s when the International Health Regulations were designed by the corporate partners in the Global Alliance for vaccines and immunization that GAVI Alliance, so those corporate partners, which include the Federation of pharmaceutical companies, as well as the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank, and, of course, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation. Exactly. I designed the introduction, influence in designing the International Health Regulations that the World Health Organization then required all member countries to sign up to. But that was done without the public’s knowledge or consultation.

Molly Knight 27:35
Exactly. And it mustn’t be done that way. We, we need to take back our power.

Dr Judy Wilyman 27:40
Well, I’m sorry.

That simple signing of that up to the International Health Regulations through the World Health Organization, we lost our sovereignty then, and that allowed corporations to then control our government and the directives that were put in place once the The World Health Organization called declared a global pandemic. And so, you know, the corporations are controlling these governments. Yes, yes, changes to our political system, we can get our voice back in the government, but it’s been removed from the media in these public debates. And I have been suppressed and censored for the last decade, this academic research, and there’s so much money and greasing the wheels so that people wouldn’t need to keep their jobs and hence, they’re not speaking up in support of freedom of academic speech and the right for me to give my research in Council venues. You know, the Lord Mayor of Sydney in 2017. You know, there was a big article in the media saying that, you know, I shouldn’t we shouldn’t be advertising my talk. On the the city of Sydney’s web page, and I got notification from some council venues that I was not allowed to present my academic research because it was simply by dismissing it as anti vaccination research. And people have accepted that label not understanding that that is the public interest in vaccination policy, the risks of vaccines, and how does that compare to the benefits of vaccines? See, that’s the other side of it. What proof has the government provided that vaccines actually control these diseases? That’s what I looked at in my PhD. And the government has not provided the statistics of the backs of number of vaccinated and unvaccinated cases of the these diseases that we get every year. Now that would prove categorically how effective the vaccine was. No Time has those two To explain us to support vaccination policy. And to add to that, and the government’s, the the I have a quote from the chairman of our vaccine advisory board that states that the Australian Government, you do not they do not need to prove that a vaccine can create herd immunity in the population before that vaccine is listed on the program. So, we have a government that says, since we have a government that promotes vaccines by making people feel guilty about community herd immunity, you must vaccinate for the sake of the community. Yet those vaccines do not have to be demonstrated to prove herd immunity before they are listed on that on that schedule. And there is no proof because they won’t use those statistics, statistics that are important in other cases of a disease let’s say measles or chickenpox that are hospitalized or all that People die of that disease. So if you looked at how many vaccinated people were dying or being hospitalized with measles or chicken pox and you looked at how many unvaccinated were getting those diseases and of course you could find out how effective the vaccine is. And what we what my thesis did show was that many highly vaccinated communities, we’ve got a 90 to 95% vaccination rate. I still getting outbreaks of these diseases and they’re in the vaccinated children.

Molly Knight 31:34
Hmm, yes, this is the measles. Yeah,

Dr Judy Wilyman 31:37
that’s right. We need to start demanding this evidence before any mandatory vaccinations come in. Man already Australia has gone too far down this road, but that’s simply because the media has not given us a voice the parents have voice in this debate, and nor have the official channels at the university. I there are many strategies they’ve used to suppress my research. For the universities and, you know, organizations that put on these conferences and select out certain, you know, perspectives of risk and benefit of these procedures.

Molly Knight 32:15
Well, it’s very big business, isn’t it? Very big business. The vaccination business. Yeah. What about the conflict of interest, Judy, in government advisory panels or committees? Can you talk a bit about that?

Dr Judy Wilyman 32:31
Yes. You realize I studied the conflicts of interest right up to 2015. And, you know, it’s, it’s incredible what conflicts exist. The majority of advisors on these boards have financial links to the vaccine companies. And through the 90s, right up until 2015. Chairman of the attention vaccine advisory Report Terry Nolan. He started in 1990 at the Murdoch Children’s Research Institute. And he in that time, he set up a program called Virgo, which is the largest research and development program for vaccines in Australia. And that was 1990. And then in 2005, he left that job at the Murdoch Children’s Research Institute to become the chairman of our vaccine advisory board to the government of tachy, the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunization and he was the chairman of that body for 10 years. As chairman, he was required to report to recommend vaccines directly to the health minister. And so he did that for 10 years. And he also had a second role during that decade. He was the deputy chair of the National Health and Medical Research Council. And as Deputy Chair he was involved In influencing decisions on funding for research, and if you remove funding from a particular area of research, then you don’t have the evidence to act with me. You don’t have the empirical hard evidence to say vaccines are safe or effective. If you don’t do that actual evidence, you can make those claims without the evidence. And that’s what’s happened here. The empirical causal study of vaccinated unvaccinated children has never been done. And they don’t use an inert placebo in the unvaccinated group and look at long term health effects of these 12 to 16 vaccines combined in an infant never been done. The placebo that’s often used is another vaccine. You know, so if you’re

Molly Knight 34:52
less doesn’t make sense, does it?

Dr Judy Wilyman 34:53
Well, if you can’t call that a safety study, if you don’t have the vaccine to see how that performs against the new vaccine. Well, that’s not a safety study. That’s a study to compare vaccines. Yes. But those are the the medical industry is claiming those to be safety studies. And again, that’s fraudulent. Hmm. And I think that has happened with this AstraZeneca COVID vaccine. I believe that they used a meningococcal vaccine as the placebo in the unvaccinated group. You know, it’s all very well to declare that but you’re not doing a safety study if you’re using the meningococcal vaccine as a placebo because the mustn’t have any effect on the body. And we know vaccines have neurological damage caused neurological damage. It is well documented. And you know, and willingboro syndrome causes seizures, convulsions, you know, meningitis they’re all listed as side effects on the package. source has been for decades.

Molly Knight 36:03
And they’re only listed there because they are, excuse me, known effects, they’re known effects of these axes. That’s why

Dr Judy Wilyman 36:10
they listed and salutely. And to say it’s just a coincidence, parents are actually being told by doctors Oh, that’s just a coincidence. And even the head of the vaccination program, Peter McIntosh, who was there from 1997 until 2000, and December 2017. And he was happy to just say all but correlation doesn’t equal causality without acknowledging that a correlation is a strong indicator of causality. And it’s a relationship that needs to be investigated if you’re claiming to use evidence based medicine. And this is a very sad fact and but the media allows them to get away with it. They haven’t made these government officials accountable for this topic. See, and it is the parents that have been smeared, our reputations destroyed. And this happens on Wikipedia. It happens in all mainstream medium. And if anyone listening wants to understand how that has happened, the pandemic movie, part two, called indoctrination, describes how this has happened and how the media is now singing from the same corporate songbook, with Wikipedia through the funding arrangements, you know, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation pretty well funds, you know, as it has funding in every institution, they have front organizations to hide some of the links. Yes, yeah, deeply involved, do it. And of course, you know, we’ve always known that if the media doesn’t report on it, then of course, it Doesn’t happen, you know? Yes, you don’t hear about it, and hence you’ve got this false reality. And the media is creating a false reality about vaccines, because they’re just not reporting the other side of this debate, and, and the very real risks and lack of benefit of many of these vaccines. Hmm.

Molly Knight 38:20
Yes. I mean, it would be wonderful if we could have the proof that vaccines do what they claims, and I don’t think anybody would quibble or not want to take a vaccine, if it was proven that it doesn’t cause any ill effects. But that’s just not how it is.

Dr Judy Wilyman 38:41
No, no, and they they literally haven’t done the empirical science that would prove safety and efficacy. I mean, a lot. One other thing that people probably don’t know is that even with the efficacy of vaccines, they don’t they don’t demonstrate The vaccine can prevent the disease in people, they use a surrogate endpoint, which is antibody titer. But our immune systems are much more complex than just antibody titer. And this is well known and Stanley Plotkin, the father of vaccinology stated himself that they don’t know what is a reasonable measure for, you know, antibody titer to protect against the measles infection, for example. And that goes with many other vaccines as well. Often people with a high antibody titer still get the disease and people with a low antibody todich can be protected from disease. So it’s not a direct relationship. And people need to know that there’s more to the immune system than just antibody titer. Yet, that’s all a vaccine does is raise the antibody titer and that endpoint is not sufficient to form proof that the back saints are effective in preventing the disease in people. And, you know, people just need to remember that the vaccines weren’t used to control the disease in terms of reducing deaths and serious illness that was done prior to the majority of these vaccines being used. So there is no justification for any mandatory vaccine. The only question for people is which vaccines do they want to use? But that needs to be a voluntary choice? Yes. There’s no suggestion that you’re putting the community at risk if you don’t have a vaccine, because the government hasn’t provided evidence that a vaccine can even cause herd immunity. You know, and we know that they weren’t needed to control the deaths because the deaths were reduced through changes to the environment. You know, environmental changes our lifestyle and nutrition and boosting our Constitution. So we were stronger in the virulence of these infections declined without The vaccines?

Molly Knight 41:01
Yeah. And that’s all graphed, isn’t it on is that the Department of Health’s webpage that they’ve got all these figures and graphs? And you can you can see clearly how these diseases had well and truly declined by about the 50s, wasn’t it? Because I mean, I grew up and

Dr Judy Wilyman 41:17
really by the 50s, it was 950 when they removed measles, whooping cough and influenza. Okay, that was in the Commonwealth yearbook of Australia in 1953. And now, so what we’re saying here is that yes, there were still cases of measles, but they were non serious, so they can report on them. Because what’s the point of self limiting? It gives long term immunity in the individual, and it creates herd immunity. So that’s why they were removed from the National notifiable disease list. Now, compare that to 2016 to 2020. Every measles cases, is treated as a public health emergency. Yes, when the media reports on them, I don’t tell you if that was a serious case of disease or a non serious case of disease. They don’t tell you if it was a vaccinated case or an unvaccinated case you get no context.

Molly Knight 42:09
Or if there were co liabilities with that,

Dr Judy Wilyman 42:12
as well. And any case that wasn’t hospitalized certainly didn’t need to be reported because then person is better in a week or two, and then they’ve got long term immunity. So So this is all the history that a PhD that’s the history that I’ve studied, and and what they’re trying to do is rewrite history. And they’ve been quite successful because the school curriculums from 1990 onwards, changed, and they started to promote the fact that vaccines control based diseases, and that’s, you know, they create herd immunity, and the vaccines don’t cause autism. Now, all of that is indoctrination. And it’s been happening for three decades. My PhD wouldn’t exist if, you know, it wasn’t showing that those things are simply not true. And the medical industry did try to ensure that it was removed from the University website. They set up a petition when it was first put up. Oh, my goodness, yes. And they and they got to the medical industry with their lobby groups. They’re very powerful in Australia. Yes. And they got about 2000 signatures on it, but the Vice Chancellor of one gone University said, We are standing by that PhD, because he knew that it had gone through the very rigorous procedures that they have in place for a PhD. Yes. So then the lobby group said, Oh, but they didn’t check Judy, why elements PhD, but you see, they didn’t have to, because the air had gone through all the procedures, I had to do twice as much as anybody else to actually get it approved. And, you know, so all the way down the road they have attempted to suppress and remove the history of vaccines that is presented in my PhD.

Molly Knight 43:59
Well Because it’s a big business, I think the dollar always wins, doesn’t it? Yeah, it’s all about money always. Um, so where does that leave us with this COVID vaccine? Have you got a lot of info about what’s coming and in Nash and what it might how it might affect the human race to say,

Dr Judy Wilyman 44:24
Well, you know, you, it’s quite intriguing to me that, you know, the government can claim for decades and provide a standard response to everybody that asks about the safety of vaccines. We’ve always been taught for the last two or three decades. Vaccines are safe and effective, and they’ve been tested for 10 years minimum before they’ve been put on the market. And now you have a government saying that they’re going to bring in a genetically engineered vaccine with mRNA in it in space of next 18 months. Hmm. You know, and so, I mean, there’s the key for parents, you know, if so, so now, you know the, the why would we believe that any of the other vaccines have been tested for 10 years, which we know they weren’t. For example, the Gardasil vaccine was fast tracked in the same way and put on the market in 2006. Again, having used in adequate surrogate endpoints for advocacy, and no no in placebos in properly designed safety studies with significant power to prove anything. So again, a tragedy. Yes,

Molly Knight 45:42
yeah, absolutely. Quite.

Dr Judy Wilyman 45:45
It is an experiment on the population because it’s an end. It’s an unmonitored one. Because the government doesn’t use an active surveillance system once it’s in phase four trials, which simply means it’s in the population But they now are using it in the population. That’s your phase four trials, you’re the experiment. But the government does not actively follow up the health outcomes of every vaccinated person. And you would need to do that for at least five to 10 years to find the patterns and the frequency of chronic illness or deaths that have been caused by these vaccines. That’s fine that the government can’t provide those statistics. And they’ll simply say, you know, serious vaccine reactions are ran. Well, that’s not a quantity. And they shouldn’t be getting away with actually saying that when people’s health, the health of the population has declined significantly as we’ve increased the number of vaccines in the population.

Molly Knight 46:47
Oh, absolutely. I mean, excuse me. I’ve been in practice since 1983. And I have seen an absolute decline in children’s health. By that, I mean, I don’t Have stats but more each year more and more children I see as patients and their chronically ill, it’s not Oh yeah, I’ve got a really serious infection. No, it’s these chronic aches and pains. It’s my child keeps getting cold after cold, you’re cold and, and I’ve seen that grow over the years, to the point where now probably the last six to eight years seeing a lot of teenagers with all sorts of mental issues anxiety, panic attacks, depression, and I never saw before ever. No, no, my slide these vaccines as they get more and more of them and there’s dozens of things.

Dr Judy Wilyman 47:46
Those ones Yeah, Molly’s disgrace, similar experiences myself in the school system and you with the natural path. And we’ve watched this chronic illness skyrocket. And then what you call ecological evidence, when scientists and governments don’t do the right thing and investigate a direct dose response relationship showing a correlation, then the the best evidence you’ve got is the health of the population. And that’s called ecological evidence. And then why what drives me back to the university was I was seeing that ecological evidence of chronic illnesses, autoimmune diseases that are, you know, even the mechanism is known in dogs, they knew that the vaccines were causing auto antibodies, because of some of the proteins in the manufacturing process that was so similar to human proteins. So you know, when they manufacture a vaccine, it can be on calf tissue. It can be on chicken eggs, it can be on even human fetal cells it for the measles, the MMR vaccine, human fetal cells. Well, well, that’s that those Proteins foreign proteins are so similar to our own proteins that the body makes what are called auto antibodies. And that leads to autoimmune diseases and what what has skyrocketed in children? Yes, no immune disease lothbrok rheumatoid arthritis, chronic fatigue syndromes, multiple sclerosis, lupus, they’re all disease, you know, and that ecological evidence is very important. So, just recently with them, this coven endemic or planned me, I was introduced to Dr. Judy, Judy mikovits. His research and her experiences parallel mine in that she was actually exposing the mechanisms by which the vaccines cause that chronic illness. So whilst I was associating the chronic illness with the schedule, she actually identified the mechanisms by which the biological mechanisms by which the vaccines Cause, you know, the neurological damage and autoimmune diseases. Because, you know, again, her reputation was smeared just like mine was she even child, you know, tragically and that’s the lengths to which they went to try and cover up that research. In my case, allegations of academic misconduct were made by a leader of one of Australia’s biggest medical industry lobby group. You know, dr. john Cunningham was allowed to make allegations of academic misconduct, eight years after my master’s thesis actually watered and I was given a high distinction for it. And when they investigated it, there was complete fabrication. And I was given an apology and compensation, but the media would not do a press release and say that the allegations have been False and fabricated. And yes, my name had been smeared with these allegations when they had been made prior to the investigation going ahead, you know, so all of that humiliation, all of the damage to my reputation. Yes, the media did not take action in the public interest to let them know that not a single thing in that in my whooping cough research that had been smeared with that allegation was changed. It is still sitting unchanged on the website, because there was not Nope, no problems with that. And that’s in the public interest.

Molly Knight 51:38
It’s very hard to, for me to understand how the media can be so blatantly biased and I guess perhaps they bought and sold as well, I suppose.

Dr Judy Wilyman 51:55
You know, yeah, they’re using the argument of false balance and

Molly Knight 52:01
By that,

Dr Judy Wilyman 52:02
by false balance, you need to weigh up the weight of evidence for the risks and the benefits of a procedure. So, in fact, it is a real thing. But it’s been misused in this case, because I have now weighed up the risks and the benefits of vaccines from an independent study with all the available publicly available government evidence. And I have discovered that the risks of that program far outweigh any benefits that have been provided in the government documents. And hence, it would be false balance. And it’s actually the reverse of what the media is doing. The false balance is in this promotion of the benefits of vaccines, and just claiming that, that the risks are minimal, you know, in fact, it’s the other way round. You know, there’s a high risk from the ground By schedule of 12 to 16 vaccines, and it would be inappropriate to present a balanced picture of the benefits and risks when we know that the risks are really high for using 12 to 16 vaccines in a genetically diverse population, that’s what people need to keep in mind. You don’t medicate an entire population simply because everybody has individual genetics. Hmm. And so and so the false balance argument is being misused and it needs to be reversed. They using arguments that we should be using to say that, you know, the risks are overwhelmingly greater than the benefits of this combined program. And it needs to be properly assessed, and certainly parents need to have that autonomy, assigned to doctors, actually, their autonomy in promoting health has been removed as well because we need our autonomy back and parents have the right to do side which vaccines they should use in their own children because we are all genetically individual. And that is a crime against humanity.

Molly Knight 54:10
Yeah. And it’s a human right to make choices for your

Dr Judy Wilyman 54:13
privacy of their bodies, their autonomy and bodily integrity, and it’s protected in every international human rights covenant that Australia has ratified, not just signed up to we’ve ratified it, but the one step we didn’t take was to put it into domestic laws. And apparently that’s why that you know, the medical industry could lobby our governments and bringing mandatory backs using the Murdoch News Corp media, because men have now owns 80% of our media in Australia. There’s no diversity of opinion happening. And and by putting this by simply promoting it as no jab, no pay. Anybody that didn’t have children, so Oh, okay. In unvaccinated means you haven’t had one or two vaccines. What what was never presented in any media radical without pushing through that policy? Was that unvaccinated mean that you hadn’t had that the children hadn’t had a minimum of 12 vaccines in their first year of law. And that that meant 24 doses, by the way.

Molly Knight 55:17
That’s right. Yeah,

Dr Judy Wilyman 55:19
I took two months. I tested it for, you know, four months, six months. And so, by the age of one, no job, no pay and play actually meant an infant, you know, at a minimum of 12 vaccines. And the government was actually recommending six days and not making it clear to parents which were mandated and which words of course, most of them are getting 16 because they’re recommended, you know, and again, that’s misleading and false and misleading information and, and they’re causing serious ill health and chronic illness and deaths in the population. And again, that’s a problem. That’s a problem. journalists to be providing false and misleading information in the media, and

Molly Knight 56:05
that they should be held accountable.

Dr Judy Wilyman 56:08
That’s right, that they’ve reversed all of the arguments and suppressed and sense of the academic literature of myself and many others. And, you know, when that is when you debate on these forums, like the conversation website, we get ridiculed and abused as if it was Facebook. And even though they claim that it’s an academic forum where you can present your information and that they have strict rules of conduct, they with with with this topic, they allow the the abuse and ridicule and once your reputation smeared, many professionals won’t speak up because they see what’s happened to other people. Yes. And it’s a form of violence as well. You know, it’s very difficult to continue doing it. So of course, then you do silence the opposition. Then you can claim Oh, look, we’ve got a consensus on the science. And that’s all that the public sees, because we’ve been completely abused. And, you know, it’s it’s hard in relationships because parents that people are getting your friends are getting false and misleading information and we’re being stigmatized as anti vaxxers. You know, it’s really quite, quite violence, it is a violence and people need to wake up to what sort of, is this a civilized society? Have we gone back to the medieval days where, you know, are we happy to have this division and people, instead of being allowed to debate different opinions, we’ve got groupthink due to bullying, you know, coming through the media, the media is driving in the medical industry through political avenues as well. And, you know, the politicians wouldn’t even look at the evidence I was providing from the university because Cause, you know, the medical lobby groups are so successful in, you know, making allegations of misconduct and then presenting them to the politicians, whatever, but also using Wikipedia. Wikipedia actually locks out individuals on these topics and we can’t change the information that’s up there. And there’s a lot of lies and and false information. And then you know, you have to live with it, even though you know that you’ve acted with integrity. And your only concern is the health of children and the population. What what other motive would I have, there’s, there’s no money involved in this, you lose your reputation. You know, I just hope that people are waking up listening now to what is happening in this country. And thankfully, we have one or two lawyers with integrity that is brought up to support us. And you know, there’s so much money involved in this that it’s keeping other lawyers the government pays many law firms. And they will lose that funding if they jump on this this issue. And the same with doctors. But, you know, I’d like to appeal to all doctors, nurses, police, everybody, the integrity needs to come back into institutions. And there is no future for our children. If this doesn’t happen, and so now would be a good time for people to come together in those professions and stand up together with the public. Yes, because, you know, there’s no science in locking up healthy people in quarantining people in hotels, you know, medically testing healthy people. Is that is that the country we want to live in? Because that will be the new norm. If professionals don’t come together now and challenge the government with this lack of science?

Molly Knight 59:51
Yes, actually, a friend from America was telling me that they’ve had over 300,000 cases of carbon dioxide poisoning from people wearing these masks for long periods of time, that it’s making them sick.

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:00:08
It absolutely is making them sick. And it’s very clear from the scientific studies that have been done, how and why that happens. But the other thing too is when the media doesn’t report on these things, that it matters will not happen. You know, that’s the reality that media creates. And, you know, that’s what we’re getting here in Australia, and media that is hiding the suicide rates, the anxiety and depression about elderly people that are dying alone in, you know, aged care facilities because of this stupid rule. That disgraceful. They need to be segregated from the public, and that we have to have a vaccine to actually go and visit them and there’s no evidence to support that policy whatsoever. The scientific evidence doesn’t exist. We’ve asked for it. You know, if it existed, you know, we would debated, but and but there’s no evidence to say that using a flu vaccine prevents people from getting the flu or in fact, is related to, in fact, the science there’s many articles suggesting that if you have the flu vaccine, it makes you more susceptible to Coronavirus is when you’re in if you get infected, huh, yes. Serious? Yes. And the a lot of evidence like that. And so, you know, the government has just been doing what it’s like with without any accountability, because the media keeps keeps quiet on all of these issues. Yes,

Molly Knight 1:01:38
yes, we were in a terrible situation, really. And we’ve got to wake up and stand up and stand together to make change because we need change.

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:01:49
We do and proof of causality is the key. Now I will point out that with COVID, the first cases that weren’t observed in China started around late December. And China mandated the flu vaccine for the first time in December 2019, as did Italy, and many European countries, Canada and Australia without aged care facilities. So for the first time ever, countries have mandated the flu vaccine. And lo and behold, the first and second waves of COVID occurred two or three weeks after the vaccine campaigns occurred in the aged care facilities. Now we want evidence based medicine and the PCR tests the antibody tests and not identifying that particular size Cove to virus they do not have high specificity for that virus, and they’re not licensed diagnostic tools. So we also want that correlation It is quite possible that the neurological damage that is being caused is caused by the vaccines. There’s strong evidence because flu vaccines in aged care facilities in past years have caused a cluster of deaths and illnesses after the campaigns. And the current report on it doesn’t happen. And so we need that correlation investigated as well to prove or disprove whether the flu vaccine has caused most of these Koba deaths because the fact is that the majority have occurred in elderly people over the age of 80. And they all have had co-morbidities, they’re not dying, just from a virus. They’ve all had comorbidities that in previous years would have been listed as the cause of death, you know, cancer, or lung disease or pneumonia, you know, strokes. All of those things are being pushed aside to label at COVID just on a suspected diet. nosis and no proof from any licensed diagnostic test. And so we mustn’t let the government get away with this.

Molly Knight 1:04:08
Yes, agree. quite agree.

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:04:10
Yeah. And because our media won’t publicize it and assistant See, normally you have a media to make the government accountable for these policies. But we haven’t had that for over a decade. And I’ve experienced the strategies that have been used to prevent us having that voice and making our government accountable. And that goes for the family court system as well. The bias and corruption in the family court system I have experienced in attempting to because now we have so many parents who are fighting each other over the vaccination issue. Yes, yes, sir. Then they don’t want to vaccinate and the other one won’t look at anything. If it hasn’t come from the government or the you know, the doctor. And so therefore, we have a lot of anxiety depression in parents now having children and they’re ending up in the court. This is very divisive. Australia is not a pleasant place to be having children at this point in time. And you know, this issue, this was never an issue pre, you know, the 19th?

Molly Knight 1:05:11
Yes, it’s a very sad state, isn’t it?

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:05:14
That’s right. And we were never at risk from these diseases after 1950 no serious risk to the majority of people, the asymptomatic cases, in the majority of cases, you know, in a developed country, 99% of these cases will be asymptomatic or mild, and that goes for the COVID virus as well.

Molly Knight 1:05:36
And in fact, you would, I would have thought the government would want herd immunity to an unknown virus. So isolating people and wearing masks is exactly the opposite. To get some herd immunity. That’s very

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:05:54
strange decisions, no goes right. You know, and that’s where we need to ask why In the first place right at the very, very beginning, why was the government thinking simply out of after one month of cases of this new coronavirus being observed? Why was it thinking global pandemic? And let’s let’s look at how they call the global pandemic one we have talked about the change in definition, yes to, they then needed large numbers of deaths and illnesses. So a mathematical formula was used, and it had false assumptions in that formula. And that was after a few of us pointed that out because you seem he can’t use generic assumptions for every country in the world to to decide how a virus will behave in each country. He says I mentioned the different environmental conditions host characteristics, genes, constitution and quality of health care system. But so that’s how they produce this enormous exaggerated numbers of deaths that would happen if this virus entered the country. Hence, they use that to lock down healthy populations now. It’s again, flawed of all flawed, and you don’t locked down half population, the first thing you need to do is experience that virus in the country to see if it’s going to be a problem, in our circumstances, our specific environmental and hosted consensus, and we have a wonderful health care system, you know, so none of that happened. And as you said, the directives that were brought in are all the opposite to how you would promote health anyway, everything will make us more unhealthy. Exactly, you know, and you can’t say that’s an unintended consequence. You know, the medical health literature has been promoting ways of health promotion for decades. You know, in the medical literature, that’s what we’ve been using for decades. So it wasn’t done intended to help consequences. We know that you isolate the sick people. We know you don’t lock up healthy people in stuffy rooms and give them poor nutrition and not let them go out for exercise for two weeks. You know that is criminal intent using fraudulent tests and unlicensed diagnostic tests and that needs to be made accountable.

Molly Knight 1:08:21
Yes, absolutely. The government’s have got a lot to answer for. And individually, they need to be held accountable.

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:08:30
Absolutely. And when anyone’s not aware, I mean serene for her. And she sent out the class action to end the legal action that she was taking against all the state premiers if they didn’t remove directives, such as the mandatory flu vaccine, and many other directives that have removed freedom of rights without scientific evidence, and the borders as well as the borders need to be opened. There’s no reason to have those borders closed and You sent that letter out on the 20th of August. And the premiers were required to take action by the 27th of August. And if they didn’t, then legal action was starting. So I don’t think the media has publicized that fact. And I think it’s important that the public knows that lawyers are picking this up, and that the fraudulent reporting on cases and deaths of this disease is a critical point. And premiers can be made liable under civil rights and in the courts for personally liable for the fact that the figures and statistics have not been properly reported. Yeah.

Molly Knight 1:09:43
So I would just make a suggestion that as many people as possible go to serines pay page webpage advocate. advocate me it, isn’t it? Yeah. And join her soon join her in her civil action needs to support Let’s jump on board everyone go to her page. Yes.

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:10:05
And people need to know that closing a border and putting the military on it is not keeping out of ours. And certainly there is no need for the military to be there now the borders need to be opened and business as normal, and the herd immunity in the population builds naturally to any new mutated coronavirus. This virus has been downgraded. It is not transmitting any more quickly than other influenza viruses. And the overall mortality rate is no different to other flu years. We know in some countries, it’s been a strong flu season in other countries a mild flu season but we are not experienced any greater number of deaths this year to other previous years.

Molly Knight 1:10:48
Yeah, exactly. It’s pretty well standard how it is every year, isn’t it? We have some countries worse and others. Yeah,

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:10:54
that’s right.

Molly Knight 1:10:55
And if you look at some of the stats you notice that have diseases

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:11:01
That’s it. That’s

mine. Yeah. Yeah,

Molly Knight 1:11:06
influence data.

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:11:08
So So what’s happened is, you know that, you know, they’ve reported on deaths that happen every year. Normally they’re all these deaths they’ve reported on them. And even on suspected cases, they’ve labeled at COVID as a, as opposed to the comorbidity that was that they were living with prior to the death. And they haven’t reported on whether those deaths were vaccinated cases or unvaccinated. So that’s information that we should know about how many of these have the flu vaccine, and you know, exactly a range of things.

Molly Knight 1:11:38
Yes. An interesting fact that I’ve often thought about is I think it was last year was the first year here in Australia that they had a special vaccine. I flew back for the elderly, so anyone over 65 had an extra strain, very special. And it’s interesting that there are so many elderly deaths with He’s cozy, right? Yeah,

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:12:02
yeah. Is there a correlation? well understand the second wave happened, you know, two or three weeks after we mandated that vaccine for all visitors. And, of course, the Aged Care residents, they most of them accepted anyway, because they’ve been indoctrinated to say that it’s beneficial. And so it was only the health care workers and the visitors that they needed to mandate it for. But you know, that correlation is significant. And proof of causality is the key to this entire health situation. And if they want to claim they’re using medical, sorry, evidence based medicine again, they need to look at all correlations and possible causes of the deaths.

Molly Knight 1:12:49
Yes, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Wow. Okay. Let’s have a couple of questions, Judy. Just let me read these. Okay, there’s a few Do you think they can make it mandatory? So, this is obviously the COVID vaccine. Amy is asking do you think they can actually make it mandatory,

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:13:11
not have the people object and rise up and resist, you know, this, you know, this is our bodies, it saves our children’s future and freedom, we need to stand up and and not allow them to do this. So if we stand up a mess, people power can change that situation. And, you know, I think a lot more people are waking up to the fact that vaccines have not been proven to be safe and effective. And the very fact that they rolling this out in you know, nine months, you know, nine months and they started manufacturing and only a month after then the novel coronavirus was discovered, you know, the plan damage is clearly a pandemic Many people are now aware that population control is part of the agenda. And, you know, there’s all sorts of talk of nanoparticles being present in a possible vaccine, which will enable people to be scanned and, you know, to determine if they’re vaccinated or unvaccinated and of course, the immunity passes have been talking about so that we won’t so coercive vaccination. And, you know, I think many, many more people now are aware that mandatory vaccine is a crime against humanity. Absolutely, yes. Because it means our individual James, you know, it should never have passed in the no job, no pay or play and we want that repealed. And we will fight to ensure that this is repealed for our children’s health, the sake of our children, and a free future for all of us. So, no, it can’t happen if we keep talking and waking up the population and showing that the evidence does doesn’t exist for any mandatory vaccination. You’re quite different to choosing whether you want to use a vaccine. We’re talking mandatory vaccine and corrosive vaccination. There’s no justification for that whatsoever.

Molly Knight 1:15:12
Yes, great. And if people want to take the vaccine if they that brave, then go for it.

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:15:18
Yeah, exactly. nobody’s taking away anyone’s right to use the vaccine. But the key here is that it’s a different argument to talk about mandatory and coercive vaccination. And it is an experiment on the population when you’re bringing something in, you know, fast tracking a medical intervention without the long term health safety effects of that vaccine, and all vaccines do cause neurological damage. Let me just point out that the swine flu vaccine used in 1976 and in 2009, caused narcolepsy and other neurological damage That was proven and compensation cases were put through in Sweden. In the US in the 1976, swine flu. Suppose that pandemic, they vaccinated, you know, 10s of thousands of people and many of them got Guillain Barre syndrome, cerebral palsy, these seizures, convulsions, that’s all documented, yet we’re repeating history. And it is now time for the public to start talking about this issue and making sure we’ve got a media that will actually represent the public’s voice. This has to be changed.

Molly Knight 1:16:38
Yes, absolutely. And I think there’s quite a few cases around the world is Italy, India, the Philippines and South Africa. I think that assuming you’re GAVI, I guess, and Bill Gates and his polio vaccine for all the damage and deaths.

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:16:59
That’s Right, I heard I heard a German lawyer speaking today. And he actually gave a speech on the 29th of August with Robert Kennedy at the the Berlin, huge protests and marches that they had there. And yes, he said that they’re starting litigation in the Civil Rights courts. They will be a personal liability for governors in the US and of course, premiers here in Australia, and other public politicians figures who have, you know, used the fraudulent PCR tests and antibody tests to repeat port cases of COVID when in fact they’re not allies license diagnostic tool. So yes, litigation in Germany, California, and other areas of the US has already started on that the fraudulent reporting of cases.

Molly Knight 1:17:55
Yeah. Which is so true. So it’s your

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:17:58
that’s driving your car. It has actually come out and admitted that they had over. They had labeled many thousands of cases as COVID that weren’t close cases. So they’ve actually admitted that they their statistics were inflated, wrongly, and on top of the fact that the PCR test is not a licensed diagnostic tool.

Molly Knight 1:18:21
Yes, exactly. What um, hang on. Sorry. I’m just looking at a message here. It’s about the PCR test. What are the specifics associated with it? What, what makes it some not a valid test?

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:18:40
Okay, so the PCR test is a test that normally identifies DNA sequences of DNA in the genomes of viruses. In this case, it’s a bit we’re looking at RNA, the corona viruses and RNA virus. And for this for the PCR test to even identify the segments, it’s got to magnify it thousands of times. And then it’s only identifying segments of the virus. So unless you have a whole it unless you’ve got a test that can isolate the whole virus to prove that that particular virus was present causing that disease, then you haven’t proved causality. And all they’ve done there is just identify segments of RNA that are similar to, you know, the source code to RNA, but it’s not the whole virus. And so that doesn’t prove causality. And also, the test isn’t standardized across states, countries, whatever. So the number of times you magnify it determines, you know, whether you’ll get a positive or a negative result. If you don’t, if you’re not using a standard number of magnifications. Then you know, the finger in you know, maybe on the east is Different to a positive result on the east might have been a negative result over here, you know, so they’re not standardizing the test either. And different crazy good or positive results if they magnify and, you know, do a greater magnification. Mm hmm.

Molly Knight 1:20:16
Well, you know, for me, I think if there’s lots of positive cases, and they’re not seek, that’s a great thing, because you can say, well, there’s some herd immunity beginning but they never mentioned any of that do that.

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:20:28
No, no, and it’s best that Healthy People do not get medically tested that is not something we want to live with it it’s an infringement of our right to live naturally in society. That’s our bodies. There should be no medically testing of healthy people. Yeah. You only get tested if you’ve got symptoms of a disease that you believe could be serious that’s that’s quite different. And you know the the effect of this you know, taking temperature by shooting a gun at the A laser beam that can go to near the pineal gland. And, you know, do we want that as the new norm when it’s unnecessary and unscientific and possibly a risk to the hormonal balance of the body? You know, who’s who’s investigated that, you know, they brought this in without any sort of assessment of what damage they’re actually causing by doing and, you know, on top of the fact that it’s a removal of our human right, you know, to participate in society without being tested. You know, and I feel for the children in schools actually, at the moment as well.

Molly Knight 1:21:37
Then what’s happening in wi Judy? That’s, yes, very scary. I think

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:21:42
it’s very scary because a school should not be a place for medical testing, or for any experiments to be going on with children, you know, but apparently they’re doing a clinical trial here in Wi Fi, ran by the telethon Institute for children’s health and Nurses are going into the schools and taking cheek swabs from the children. You know, so they come in masks, you know, with their masks on and gloves and take a cheek swab, but I’m not sure the purpose of a cheek swab because that’s not a PCR test. So it’s not related to COVID. I have heard that there’s a clause in the contract that the government has with the Chinese company that they bought the PCR tests from. And there’s a clause that says that the DNA genome can be retained by both the Australian Government and the Chinese government. So that clause apparently exists in our contract. So is this a case of collecting DNA? What is it the sounds like it of nurses going into the schools and collecting cheek swabs from children and why are schools being used Just medical testing grounds in the first place. And vaccines in schools is a step too far. You know, individuals need individual advice as to whether they should get a vaccine or not. But all of that went out the door. And without discussion and debate, the pharmaceutical companies have literally made these policies throughout governments and they’ve reduced the age of children to 14 so that now a 14 year olds can get a vaccine without telling their parents they can get other medical treatments without telling their parents because that I it was reduced to 14 but a child 14 cannot assess the literature. And parents are their legal guardian. We have a duty to look after the health of our children but who consulted us on reducing the age of children to 14

Molly Knight 1:23:53
Yes, absolutely. That’s

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:23:55
areas 18 a child is under 18. You know, and he 16 might have been more sensible, but, you know, 14? No, no, it’s been removed as a democracy in Australia and it hasn’t been 14 years.

Molly Knight 1:24:14
Yeah, we definitely have to make some changes and

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:24:16
now that’s it.

Molly Knight 1:24:18
Okay, another question. Someone Masha has said, Have you forwarded your thesis to ministers around Australia to read? They probably won’t read it.

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:24:33
I spent many years I spent a decade writing to politicians writing to the Human Rights Commission, writing to the health department and the chief medical officers. I put in submissions for the no job no pay inquiry, Senate inquiry. I put in submissions to the Human Rights Commission emit Amendment Bill for discrimination In policy, and all of my submissions were ignored. And, in fact, for the Senate inquiry for the no job, no pay, thousands of people put in submissions, and the majority of them were against the no job, no pay, but they were all ignored. So it’s not just the academic information that I have been providing and all the letters I’ve had so many standard letters have replied, vaccines are safe and effective. And, you know, and and they’ve been tested for 10 years. We, we strongly support the government vaccination program, because it’s for community health, you know, and everybody’s getting them but they never answer the questions, the specific questions we ask. And when I sent letters to the Human Rights Commission, they would pass it on to the health department, you know, so nobody is answering the questions. Our Human Rights Commission is actually toothless with respect to him. Human Rights and particularly medical freedom. That wasn’t even on the agenda for the conversation last year. She

Molly Knight 1:26:08
Okay, we need change your lanta has asked Would you please comment on the use of ventilators as compared with respirators with the COVID patients?

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:26:20
were like, I can’t really do that because I’m not a medical doctor. And what I know was with COVID, and just through listening to nurses and doctors speak, is that the ventilators were being misused, that they that a ventilator is something that an elderly patient is put on to prolong their life when they know there’s no other options. And it’s just to prolong life for a little bit longer. Most people die once they’ve been put on a ventilator. So now being misused for the COVID outbreak. I also know that there was incentives Doctors to use the ventilators.

Molly Knight 1:27:04
And installous wasn’t the right

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:27:06
and incentives also to label a patient as covid, even without any clinical or laboratory evidence, all of that was incentivized, as has been the doctors with regard to vaccination that they were getting paid per person that they vaccinated or Yeah, and medical centers get paid to raise the immunization rates of under four year olds, they get a lump sum from pharmaceutical companies. So there’s your financial rewards are being used to misuse a lot of the the ventilators and, and other protocols in the hospitals. That was another way in which deaths happened prematurely. They reversed a lot of the protocols that normally happen, and, you know, it caused more harm than than benefit and

yeah, that’s where a lot of illness and deaths came from as well.

Molly Knight 1:28:01
What can you say? What can you say? Yeah, it is. It’s unbelievable. And you know that these people who accept all the bribes, the money, these are human beings, you know, where is their integrity?

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:28:17
Well, that’s where I’m appealing to them now because, you know, I did understand, you know, previously they’re in a rough between a rock and a hard place. Until enough people stand up together, then they the doctors certainly weren’t gagged in being able to present you know, their knowledge of the academic literature and the risks of vaccines. However, you know, we’ve got serene doing a class action against the Australian health practitioners regulatory authority to ensure that doctors are able to speak openly about their own assessment of the medical literature. And, you know, it’s very clear in health promotion in order to promote Health. People need autonomy over their own bodies. Yes, autonomy is removed, health declines, it is a health promotion and needs autonomy over our bodies. And it certainly needs a medical profession that has autonomy to assist the medical interpreter for themselves. Yeah, they’re the doctors, not the regulatory authority. Exactly, yes. And then the medical industry or pharmaceutical companies that are influencing their education. You see, we want the doctors there the either, you know, and people with the knowledge to be able to assist medical literature and they need to be able to speak openly. And that’s how we’ve arrived at this medical tyranny. Yes, regulation of doctors and their gagging of or removal of their autonomy

Molly Knight 1:29:52
to Yeah, it is and also just slightly different topic, but the hydroxychloroquine If the GP now prescribes it, the pharmacy, the pharmacy, pharmacists can override the doctor’s prescription and the pharmacist can say no.

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:30:12
Well, how can that?

Yep. And again, if they did that, you know, that would be a crime, because they’re 70 years of evidence saying that the hydroxychloroquine is a good for COVID and flu like illness such as COVID. And so clearly, they need to be careful about overriding that because that could be considered a criminal offence and they could be held liable for withholding and known cure for a disease. And they know we’re getting into pretty interesting territory when they spin this, you know, the TGA perhaps could be, you know, held responsible or made accountable to for putting in that directory. Yes, exactly. withholding treatments.

Molly Knight 1:31:03
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It’s insane. It’s insane. Yeah, it is. It is. Now another one. Virginia has asked, Is there a way we can get the stuff out from the child system? Now? I’m assuming she’s maintaining the chemicals or the additives in vaccines?

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:31:24
Yes. Right. Well, I know that a lot. A lot of holistic doctors use chelation and other methods to try and detoxify the body. So definitely, yes. You know, go to your holistic doctors and try and do that. But remember, if you choose to use a vaccine, you know, it does contain chemicals and foreign DNA, and that can affect your quality of life. Once your quality of life is gone, it is much harder to get it back so it doesn’t require you know, a proper investigation. of what you’re going to do with your child’s body and your own body. And, you know, I think too many people are just blindly following what the government is saying, and not making an effort to investigate for themselves and decide the risks and benefit of so many vaccines. Well, they’re not

Molly Knight 1:32:19
educated to do that there. It’s the opposite, you know, is

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:32:23
the indoctrination through the school system. And I mean, even celebrities and comedians, they’ve been incentivized to actually promote vaccines, when you must have noticed how all the comedians in Australia have taught at some point how to guard anti vaxxers Yes, comedian knows anything about science and, you know, the benefits or risks of a vaccine. And yet, they’re happy to make anti vaxxers the butt of their jokes and I’ve seen every one of them do it, you know, of course, because I turned to comedy to try and, you know, keep my sanity. And of course,

Unknown Speaker 1:33:01
not healthy. It was,

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:33:03
you know, I find it very interesting that, that they’ve got children as well. And it’s the one political issue where, you know, you’re allowed to abuse and ridicule people, even academics and professionals that speak up, you know, you’re actually encouraged to do it and probably incentivized, obviously, yes. But can we just get people to start thinking about this? You know, why is it a political issue that you can bully people into believing? And until we get people to start thinking for themselves? And this means that celebrities and comedians now have to act with integrity as well. Because they need to start thinking about their own kids future and what what they want for them and you know, we all live in this world together and do they like bullying and ridiculing and is that how they want their children to be treated in the playground? I know many Parents who have educated their children on vaccines, and these children are getting bullied in the playground, and they’re getting bullied by teachers in the classroom. Teachers are actually singling them out and saying, oh, you’re an unvaccinated child and making them feel bad. And and, you know, that is very, very damaging. And, and it’s a very divisive society that, you know, I it’s interesting that people are so happy to accept that. Um, yeah,

Molly Knight 1:34:28
yeah, you’re right. It’s, it’s quite tragic,

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:34:32
actually, that we’ve got this far down the road. So, you know, we really do have to, to wake people up quickly. And everybody needs to keep talking about this, you know, to their friends and trying to introduce it in a way that will open their minds because I know the government’s used psychological strategies to close people’s minds, the cognitive dissonance, is that a Paik? Absolutely, yeah, with the media control that we have It has been very difficult to talk to anyone on this issue.

Molly Knight 1:35:05
Yeah, I agree. But I think I have faith because if you look at the people are definitely waking up and questioning things. And you think about all these people speaking out about the the dangers or the dis the non disclosure of truth around vaccines, it’s all medical professionals. It’s not Joe Blow, who you know, just does the garden twice a week. These are medical professionals, you are questioning the the efficacy and the safety of this instrument that we are, well, I think being forced onto us through coercion,

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:35:53
or dishonesty. That is it is and you know, I think it was always going to take an event like COVID To help us expose the lies that the government has been selling this program on for decades, and yeah, school curriculums, and, you know, even the University of Wollongong and they used a strategy once my PhD was approved, and as soon as it was published on the University website, they ensured that 60 academics from the faculty of science, medicine and health, were required to sign their names to a statement on the university’s website, saying that they support the government’s vaccination program. Now, not a single one of those academics had even read my thesis or investigated vaccines for themselves. So they’ve never investigated the government’s claims of safety and efficacy, yet they signed their name to that statement. And that in itself, you know, was difficult for me, but that shows up breach of academic integrity by the university. Yes. And so what was the point of doing a PhD investigating the schedule when none of them debated or read my thesis and all of them blindly signed their names to that, that support for government vaccination policy. And, and that is deceptive to the public. So deceptive.

Molly Knight 1:37:25
Yeah, very deceptive. We have been deceived in many, many things over the last 20 or 30. What 3040 years really is. I think it’s been a very clever plan to get us to a position where we have little freedom. Well, no freedoms, almost little choice and we just have to bow down

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:37:48
and I won’t know what this is.

You know, we’ve lost many pips. So many people now have lost so much. We’ve lost our sense of community We have nothing left to lose. And that’s why I say to everybody to start thinking about in their profession, are they acting with integrity? And yeah, is this the Australia you want to live with? Are these the new norms that you think are acceptable for your children? We’ve had freedom and there’s no reason to remove our personal autonomy over our own bodies. And, you know, all these facial recognition cameras that are coming in with the five G. You know, there’s an agenda of population control that I think, you know, people like to present it perhaps as a conspiracy theory, but you’ve got to look at the evidence. The evidence is there. The 5g is going up, the facial recognition cameras are going in. The politicians are talking about community. immunity passes cozy passes in a vaccination certificate so you can participate in society. They’ve got the military on the borders, look at the evidence, we have got nothing left to lose. And so don’t be fearful to stand up. Just, you know, what sort of future Do you want for your children? And what do you want integrity in the institutions because we need to bring back integrity in many of these institutions. So now is the time to stand together to do this. Hmm, we cannot be fearful. Absolutely. I think as soon as you allow that temperature check or medical test of a healthy person, then you have complied. And they will continue doing this until we resist.

Molly Knight 1:39:43
Yes, yes. Time to say no.

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:39:46
Absolutely. And all borders need to be open. There is no reason to have those borders closed. Now.

Molly Knight 1:39:52
It’s quite ridiculous when you think about it. Um, you know, viruses float in the air for goodness sakes. They don’t This is the border. Thank you.

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:40:02
Well, this is it.

They did. Viruses are not living things. And the other thing people need to remember is that just because you’re exposed to a virus, doesn’t mean you’re going to get sick or disease. The virus can only cause disease if certain environmental factors, as I’ve said, are present or certain host characteristics are present. And the virus will cause maybe asymptomatic infection in many people, pseudo and mild infection in some people, and very rarely in a developed country, would you get serious illness from one of these from the virus? You know, this virus is not any more serious than a normal influenza virus. So this is why the borders need to be opened. The reporting has been fraudulent, and people have been misinformed as to how viruses cause disease. I’d like to just If I could raid one of the things that I came across in my research, which really should help emphasize the fact that a virus on its own does not cause disease, at least 99% of people will get an asymptomatic or mild infection from that virus. And in 1960 Frank but Frank MacFarlane, Burnett received the Nobel Prize for immunology in Australia. He stated that genetics, nutrition, psychological and environmental factors may play a more important role in resistance to disease than the assumed benefits of artificial immunity induced by vaccination. He considered the genetic deterioration of the population may be a consequence of universal mass vaccination. And in 1960s are only using two vaccines, three vaccines at that point? Yes, we postulate Did that in the long term vaccination may be against the best interests of the state? Well, that’s what we’ve observed, the genetic fabric of the population is deteriorating, we have seen chronic illness skyrocket in children tenfold in direct dose response relationship to the vaccination program. So here is a Nobel Prize Laureate from 1960 predicting this situation. And we have a government that has refused to investigate this direct correlation between the expansion of the schedule and all the illness that we’re seeing in the population. You know, this illness is a serious long term chronic illness that many people will not live the potential that they were born with. And apparently the long term cares and I’ll say their children died before them. It is time to have this debate, and millions of people have autistic children and that evidence has not been investigated.

Molly Knight 1:43:02
Yes, yes, it’s time that we make some change make it happen, because the government’s the current governments aren’t going to look at any of this. They too. They’re corrupt. Sorry, but they just corrupt

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:43:14
What? I have experienced some of that corruption. It’s very sad. And now we are at a point where we’re losing our freedoms over this. And I think, yeah, the lawyers do need to pick this up, and we need to support them and make sure that there’s accountability for these decisions that are so blatantly against health promotion of the community.

Molly Knight 1:43:40
Yeah, yeah, quite agree. So, certainly, let me encourage everyone again, go to serines web page advocate me and join her her suits join her class actions. Let’s support the work that is being done so that we can step by step Go in the right direction and get our freedoms back. Get our lives back.

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:44:05
That’s wrong. Yeah, absolutely.

Molly Knight 1:44:09
Okay, on that note to the mob was talk, thank you so much I value your knowledge and your courage because it does take courage to step up and step out of the the norm and you do get attacked. I know.

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:44:26
Yes, yeah, I won’t deny that. But you do have to have courage and just know that, you know, you’ve acted with integrity, and that, you know, if a medical procedure works, then educated people will be using it without being coerced or forced into that medication. Point. You do not need coercive medical practices. If the procedure works, it will speak for itself. Yes. And so this is where we really critically need investigation of the chronic illness in the population and whether you know, whether it is linked to this expanded vaccination program, which is the most likely cause because of the chemicals that we know are in it, and the foreign DNA that is in those vaccines. Yeah,

Molly Knight 1:45:16
quite scary what they put into some of these vaccinations as it is, yeah,

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:45:21
that’s what polysorbate 80 causes infertility and sodium borides. And you know, they’re in the Gardasil vaccine. That was one of the first things that I questioned, you know, and the TGA. And the understanding didn’t provide an answer. Just the standard vaccines are safe and effective and have been tested for 10 years. Well, at least the public can see now that they’re not tested for 10 years.

Molly Knight 1:45:44
Exactly. Yeah.

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:45:45
And we have not been identified.

Molly Knight 1:45:48
Yeah, yeah. There’s a lot to be thankful for with this. cosy. Absolutely, because it’s opened a lot of eyes. Definitely. Yeah, hopefully

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:45:56
a lot more very rapidly.

Molly Knight 1:45:59
Yes, exactly. Exactly, yeah. All right. Well, I think that’s it, Julia. Unless you’ve got anything else. Well, I know you’ve got a lot more that you could add. But maybe another another night, we could talk a little deeper about vaccines and what’s actually in them, and the likely effects that it is having.

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:46:20
Thank you. Thanks, Molly. That’s it.

Molly Knight 1:46:23
Yeah, very much. Appreciate you.

Dr Judy Wilyman 1:46:26
Thanks. Thank you. Yeah. Good night. Great. Thanks.

Molly Knight 1:46:29
Good night, everyone. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for staying with us tonight. It’s been a long talk. But it’s been an enormously valuable talk and Judy is very courageous because anyone who talks about the vaccine debate or the vaccine, yay or nay always gets a little bit of tact and I’ve had a few scathing moments in my lifetime in practice, but I always believe that what is there is You want to do it, you should have the freedom to actually do it, whether it’s something into your body or onto your body, whether you go to a movie or out for dinner, if you want to do it, we have freedom, or we did. We did, but they’ve been slowly eroded. So we need to all stand up together, to fight back and take back our human rights. So please join serene advocate me, jump on board with her litigation that she’s doing and become part of a group that makes really good change for the benefit of humanity. Because that’s what’s being threatened at the moment. Make no mistake, that’s what’s being threatened here. Okay, so good night, everybody. God bless. Thank you for staying with us. And I hope that you have gained as much from this talk as I have good night.


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